diff --git a/src/pretix/presale/views/__init__.py b/src/pretix/presale/views/__init__.py
index 8307e1ca0..5f13ec248 100644
--- a/src/pretix/presale/views/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pretix/presale/views/__init__.py
@@ -124,8 +124,10 @@ class CartMixin:
 
         if order:
             fees = order.fees.all()
-        else:
+        elif positions:
             fees = get_fees(self.request.event, self.request, total, self.invoice_address, self.cart_session.get('payment'))
+        else:
+            fees = []
 
         total += sum([f.value for f in fees])
         net_total += sum([f.net_value for f in fees])
@@ -169,14 +171,18 @@ def get_cart(request):
     from pretix.presale.views.cart import get_or_create_cart_id
 
     if not hasattr(request, '_cart_cache'):
-        request._cart_cache = CartPosition.objects.filter(
-            cart_id=get_or_create_cart_id(request), event=request.event
-        ).order_by(
-            'item', 'variation'
-        ).select_related(
-            'item', 'variation', 'subevent', 'subevent__event', 'subevent__event__organizer',
-            'item__tax_rule'
-        )
+        cart_id = get_or_create_cart_id(request, create=False)
+        if not cart_id:
+            request._cart_cache = CartPosition.objects.none()
+        else:
+            request._cart_cache = CartPosition.objects.filter(
+                cart_id=cart_id, event=request.event
+            ).order_by(
+                'item', 'variation'
+            ).select_related(
+                'item', 'variation', 'subevent', 'subevent__event', 'subevent__event__organizer',
+                'item__tax_rule'
+            )
     return request._cart_cache
 
 
diff --git a/src/pretix/presale/views/cart.py b/src/pretix/presale/views/cart.py
index 83b48f191..a41e4b914 100644
--- a/src/pretix/presale/views/cart.py
+++ b/src/pretix/presale/views/cart.py
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@ def create_empty_cart_id(request, replace_current=True):
     return new_id
 
 
-def get_or_create_cart_id(request):
+def get_or_create_cart_id(request, create=True):
     """
     This method returns the cart ID in use for this request or creates a new cart ID if required.
 
@@ -232,6 +232,8 @@ def get_or_create_cart_id(request):
     This method migrates legacy sessions created before the upgrade to 1.8.0 on a best-effort basis,
     meaning that the migration does not respect plugin-specific data and works best if the user only
     used the session for one event at the time of migration.
+
+    If ``create`` is ``False`` and no session currently exists, ``None`` will be returned.
     """
     session_keyname = 'current_cart_event_{}'.format(request.event.pk)
     prefix = ''
@@ -254,6 +256,8 @@ def get_or_create_cart_id(request):
         if prefix and 'take_cart_id' in request.GET and current_id:
             new_id = current_id
         else:
+            if not create:
+                return None
             new_id = generate_cart_id(prefix=prefix)
 
         # Migrate legacy data